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Topic: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #98 on: October 19, 2018, 09:43:01 AM »
Lastly, I’m probably more interested in a team’s ceiling than their basement. Best win probably means a little more to me than worst loss. I know anyone is capable of getting crushed by Bama. I want the precious few capable of beating them.
I think this is a really interesting point and I think I agree with it.  If we think that Notre Dame has a higher ceiling than Michigan then maybe we should want Notre Dame in the CFP instead of Michigan because Notre Dame's higher ceiling is the most relevant issue.  

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2018, 01:13:04 PM »
The "higher ceiling" notion IS interesting indeed.  A team might be one that looks bad at times, but has looked great at others.  Maybe it is injury related, or game scheme, or the QB is up and down, whatever.

Would you vote for them over a "Grinder" team that was consistent?

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #100 on: October 20, 2018, 12:41:52 AM »
If that sample size of 11 is definitively in the corner of the team that lost I’m happy to consider that.
Technically, it only has to be over 1/11th in their corner to be considered.  H2H isn’t some magic charm bracelet, it’s merely one game.
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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #101 on: October 20, 2018, 01:00:15 AM »
I'm glad its still October, and there are several weeks of games to be played.

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #102 on: October 21, 2018, 05:41:55 PM »
I think UMs biggest worry is a 1 loss non champion Alabama. Bama has dominated every game, if they dominant 11 games and lose 1 quirky game I wouldn’t be surprised if committe voted them in. It’s not about who deserves to get in but who committee thinks is 4 best teams. and I guarantee there will be talking heads and committee members who think Alabama is one of 4 best in that scenario, maybe at the cost of UM, Iowa or OSU from the BIG assuming one of those 3 would be 12-1. 

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #103 on: October 21, 2018, 05:49:31 PM »
That and an 11-1 ND are definitely the only situations that could matter. The question is whether and how much. There's a fair chance the committee would put 12-1 Michigan over either (for example, if the committee rating really weighs resumé).

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #104 on: October 21, 2018, 06:18:30 PM »
After looking it over, Michigan does not 100 percent control its own destiny, but it’s close.

Assuming Mich wins out, it’s 12-1, conference champ. 
Worse case, there’s three undefeated teams ahead of it: Bama, ND, Clemson. 

So the best competition would be a one-loss Big 12 champ or one loss PAC-12. So that means it could only be WSU, Oklahoma or Texas. Michigan goes if it’s WSU, Oklahoma or Texas are more of an issue. Michigan will have the best loss and most excusable one. 

Michigan wouldn’t get jumped by a one-loss Bama, unless ND fell apart, and that takes a playoff contender out of it. I think a one-loss ND is the most tricky, but even then, enough teams will lose that 12-1 will be good enough. (I don’t think UM goes 12-1, but we’ll see)

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Re: Playoff Picture heading into Week 8 - Does M control their own destiny?
« Reply #105 on: October 21, 2018, 06:59:55 PM »
SEC is out of the playoff if:
Kentucky wins out (12-1 champion)
Alabama loses to them in ATL (12-1 non-champ)
Florida wins out (11-1)

The same lack of status UK would suffer from also damns Bama as an (unfairly) unsexy loss.  Florida would just be there, not mattering bc FSU sucks.

Imagine that!
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