2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

[betarhoalphadelta]

Yeah, apparently WVU  “won” 95-89. Had two starters that sat it out. Last year word was Purdue sorta smoked them.  I never really put a lot of stock in these.

Agreed. I see it as a place where both coaches can play around a bit with lineups and do some things they wouldn't normally do in a game. I think the Purdue/WVU matchup started a few years ago when Purdue was terrible at beating a press, so Painter wanted to scrimmage WVU to have a team press them. Then it's just continued...
But still, 24 TO is a lot. 

[bayareabadger]

UW lost forward Aleem Ford to some kinda knee. Will miss a chunk of the season. He was set to be the top frontcourt reserve, so they’ll need some kind of miracle before Happ as Reuvers

[ELA]

2 new CBs this morning, both for MSU.  Those late trends are usually meaningful.  That would be quite the pleasant surprise.

MSU it is. Surprising, but much needed after losing Weeks to *cough* DePaul *cough*

[LetsGoPeay]

MSU it is. Surprising, but much needed after losing Weeks to *cough* DePaul *cough*

I have to wonder if this helps IU with Keion Brooks.

[ELA]

I have to wonder if this helps IU with Keion Brooks.

I don't think the commitment itself does, MSU still has two more spots.  One has to be a big.  Ideally either Carey or Stewart.  But they still have room for Brooks.  I think MSU shifting emphasis from Brooks to Hall over the past few weeks is likely a sign they believed they were running clearly behind IU for Brooks.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Boy, I'm getting really sick of Izzo looking at the guys Painter has been aggressively wooing for 2 years, picking who he wants, throwing them a late offer, and then seeing them in green and white...

[ELA]

Boy, I'm getting really sick of Izzo looking at the guys Painter has been aggressively wooing for 2 years, picking who he wants, throwing them a late offer, and then seeing them in green and white...

Who is that?  Other than this case, where MSU moved onto Plan B once Weems surprised everyone by picking DePaul, every other MSU-Purdue battle MSUnwon was a Plan A guy.  Harris, Dawson, Jackson.  All Plan As.  Purdue got a couple guys MSU wanted the past couple years, Eastern and Williams.

[Brutus Buckeye]

OSU won their exhibition game against UNC-WhaterItWas. 

[ELA]

UW lost forward Aleem Ford to some kinda knee. Will miss a chunk of the season. He was set to be the top frontcourt reserve, so they’ll need some kind of miracle before Happ as Reuvers

No worries.  ESPNs foolproof computer has Bucky preseason #8.  Michigan is #42.  Those check out right?  Why bother watching, ESPN has their finger on the pulse of everything.

[bayareabadger]

No worries.  ESPNs foolproof computer has Bucky preseason #8.  Michigan is #42.  Those check out right?  Why bother watching, ESPN has their finger on the pulse of everything.

It turns out he might miss a month. So that’s a slight bullet dodge.
Peoples need to get mad at ESPN and projections is interesting. That one seemed like an odd one. Means they overvalue returning production, don’t put enough on recruiting rankings. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Who is that?  Other than this case, where MSU moved onto Plan B once Weems surprised everyone by picking DePaul, every other MSU-Purdue battle MSUnwon was a Plan A guy.  Harris, Dawson, Jackson.  All Plan As.  Purdue got a couple guys MSU wanted the past couple years, Eastern and Williams.

It's more of a gripe at how generally good Painter is at identifying talent and getting on kids early, only to watch as they blow up and then a bigger "name" comes in without all the legwork and steals them away.
It's not that MSU doesn't make them a priority, it's that MSU makes them a priority much later than Purdue has made them a priority. 
As someone on the Hammer & Rails site put it, it's like Purdue's the girl next door who's been talking to the recruit for a year, and he's been talking back because he doesn't want to lose out, but he's really waiting for the cheerleader [MSU] to come in and will jump that direction as soon as she shows interest.

[ELA]

MSU was "on" Hall for a while, they just didn't think they had a spot for him, presumably getting Weems, and then prioritizing Brooks over Hall.  Once Weems surprised everyone and went to DePaul, MSU immediately moved onto Hall, who was their 3rd wing.  Basketball recruiting, the nature is you can't have a ton of offers out there like you can in football, you generally have a half dozen out there at a time.  Hall was always their #3 wing, but needing to prioritze a big, they couldn't have more than 2 offers out there at once, so it was Weems and Brooks.  Once Weems moved on, MSU moved on Hall.

[betarhoalphadelta]

MSU was "on" Hall for a while, they just didn't think they had a spot for him, presumably getting Weems, and then prioritizing Brooks over Hall.  Once Weems surprised everyone and went to DePaul, MSU immediately moved onto Hall, who was their 3rd wing.  Basketball recruiting, the nature is you can't have a ton of offers out there like you can in football, you generally have a half dozen out there at a time.  Hall was always their #3 wing, but needing to prioritze a big, they couldn't have more than 2 offers out there at once, so it was Weems and Brooks.  Once Weems moved on, MSU moved on Hall.

I get it. He was their backup plan. Apparently Purdue was his. I'm just getting sick of it.
I couldn't imagine being a college coach and having to recruit. Painter poured 2 years into Hall. It was clear he was our "plan A". We would have taken him AND Brooks, if we had any chance at Brooks, so Painter wasn't waiting for someone else to disappear off our radar. And Hall would have immediate significant playing time, something I'm not sure MSU can offer. 
Yet after all that work and effort, the team that basically made Hall their third option swoops in and gets him.  

[ELA]

Pretty sure that's just recruiting.  MSU was I believe the first to offer Weems, was on him the longest, and it's not even like he flipped at the last second to a good program.  He chose DePaul.  The length of time you recruit a kid doesn't matter if there is another school they simply like more.