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Topic: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #210 on: October 15, 2018, 04:17:31 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 15, 2018, 12:50:32 PM
The snapper engaged in the block and got beat. Then he did a little dance on the sideline with is buddies after the BS call gave Michigan another chance. Michigan must coach this?? It's only happened to UW twice, and both have been in Ann Arbor (2016 was the other one).
Do you have video,I didn't see it and it has piqued my curiosity 
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #211 on: October 15, 2018, 04:35:08 PM »
because you kinda like Michigan, or you'd like to forward it to Urban's cell phone so he doesn't fall into the same trap?
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #212 on: October 15, 2018, 04:37:40 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 15, 2018, 03:40:25 PM
That’s all the NBA is anymore.
I was speaking to a specific Wisconsin punter
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #213 on: October 15, 2018, 04:45:54 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 15, 2018, 04:35:08 PM
because you kinda like Michigan, or you'd like to forward it to Urban's cell phone so he doesn't fall into the same trap?
Well if your talking to me I nodded off after M's 1st score.Don't feel like sorting thru 3 hrs of game film for 1 play.As far as the other two not that big of a fan of either
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #214 on: October 15, 2018, 09:40:02 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on October 15, 2018, 12:18:11 PM
I was a long snapper,  every time the huddle broke, the Umpire would say quite loudly,  'nobody mess with the snapper'.  It was gospel (this was early 90s).   Only once did I get mildly rammed by a guy trying to rush a gap on a kick and the flag was thrown.

On the play on Saturday in Ann Arbor, while it wasn't a cheap shot per se, it is not typical to see a snapper pushed backwards towards the punter like that.   though Cheeseman allowed himself to get taken up in the current IMO.
That's how I saw it. A rare call, but probably correct by a smidge (a judgment call leaning this way).
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #215 on: October 15, 2018, 09:47:09 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 15, 2018, 11:21:48 AM
Brown is 63, he's probably at Michigan until he retires, I can't imagine him getting another HC offer worth taking at his age.
Mattison is 68, he's certainly at Michigan until he retires.
Warriner is only 56, I would think his tenure depends on getting another OC shot or not.
Yeah, Brown and Mattison have the same odds of leaving before retirement as Harbaugh leaving for the NFL in the next three years (it's not high). I think it's almost the same of Warriner. My proofless hunch is that he has gotten the OC itch out of his system.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #216 on: October 15, 2018, 11:00:15 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 15, 2018, 04:45:54 PM
Well if your talking to me I nodded off after M's 1st score.Don't feel like sorting thru 3 hrs of game film for 1 play.As far as the other two not that big of a fan of either
They say the millennials are all lazy, and yet I have to go find these things for people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYixbVWp1wU
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #217 on: October 15, 2018, 11:11:51 PM »
nice work

and a good call
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #218 on: October 16, 2018, 12:19:39 AM »
Yeah the more I watch it, the more I take it back. It's not borderline. He's going backwards before his head comes up enough to even be looking forward. Just like with a girl, engagement is intentional. And you can't pick what you can't see.
Whether I'm right or not, the salt in the wound on that penalty HAS to be that his name is Cheeseman.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #219 on: October 16, 2018, 08:19:39 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2018, 12:19:39 AM
Yeah the more I watch it, the more I take it back. It's not borderline. He's going backwards before his head comes up enough to even be looking forward. Just like with a girl, engagement is intentional. And you can't pick what you can't see.
Whether I'm right or not, the salt in the wound on that penalty HAS to be that his name is Cheeseman.

That's his fault. The first thing you do as a snapper is raise your head. Snapping 101.
I think the move is coached, and it worked.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #220 on: October 16, 2018, 09:21:13 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
That's his fault. The first thing you do as a snapper is raise your head. Snapping 101.
I think the move is coached, and it worked.
Long snappers are allowed to look between their legs. And they are not allowed to be touched unless they engage first. 
So doing it like that is smart. The call was right. And the UW guy lined up over him made a mistake he probably knew was wrong starting in high school, if not earlier.
But I don't think you're arguing that. I think maybe you're saying "What a wimp that Cheeseman does it like that anyway..."
Whereas I'm thinking "Great idea; great results; do it that way forever; what could possibly be the downside for Michigan?"
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #221 on: October 16, 2018, 09:50:31 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
Whereas I'm thinking "Great idea; great results; do it that way forever; what could possibly be the downside for Michigan?"
and of course the coaches alert the officials to watch for it
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #222 on: October 17, 2018, 06:52:22 AM »
It's a puss move. That's the only downfall for Michigan.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game
« Reply #223 on: October 17, 2018, 07:17:54 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
That's his fault. The first thing you do as a snapper is raise your head. Snapping 101.
I think the move is coached, and it worked.
This^^^ look how far he backed - bad call.Look at the players on the M sideline smiling like they pulled a coup 
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